Ep10: Alonso happy about being screwed, we rank top Mets & Yankees & Pete loses his sh***!

[00:00:31] Alright, alright, alright, we are the Diamond Geezers, your home away from home, where the game never gets old. With me are Carlos, Vin, Peter, and yours truly Rey, Jesse Winker at first base. Who the hell came up with that idea? Jesse Wink, who came up with that moronic idea? Can't imagine. John Allianz.

[00:01:02] John Allianz. Yes, well, Peter Alonso is taking care of that problem, and, listen, he comes back with his tail between his legs, but somehow he's happy. I'm being told, oh, he's happy because he's the highest paid first baseman. But then I hear Michael Kay come on and say that, actually the highest paid first baseman was Miguel Cabrera. But that's not true because Cabrera was the TH at the end of his career, right? Thank you, Ben. So Michael K.

[00:01:29] Yeah, he's not – the way he did it, it's all – if you even ask Chad GPT, who's the – it comes up with Alonzo after he's – I thought it was Bryce Harper now that he's moved to – No, it's Alonzo. They go by Pete. They're going by the – they don't do the AEV two for 54. They go by what he's paid in the given season, which I think is $30 million this year. He's paid $30 million. Yeah, so that – no, it's – Ray's correct.

[00:01:58] No, was that more for Alonzo? That's usually for Alonzo. What's that? Was that more for Boris or Alonzo? Well, listen, I don't know. He's happy. Good question. Even if he's too stupid to realize he shouldn't be happy, he's happy. The fact that he's happy shows why he didn't get the contract he wanted. It's not only – yeah. It's not only the end of this waiting period and us having Alonzo back at first base.

[00:02:28] It's also the end of what has been a streak that has lasted since 1994, where yours truly has made predictions about things, guarantees. And I had guaranteed you four weeks ago to Alonzo be at the match. And this is the end of that streak. And just so you folks know what I'm talking about, in November 1994, the Jets were playing the Dolphins. I was sitting at the stadium. As you know, this is the fake spike game.

[00:02:57] And as I'm sitting there with the Jets in the lead, ironically enough, it involves Aaron Glenn. And I looked at my friend and I said, this game's over. I guarantee it. And then the fake spike happened. Right. And then we moved forward. No, no. I have more. Then we moved forward. And the infamous game against the Dolphins again, where the Jets made that incredible comeback, I left the stadium saying, ah, this game's over. Jets suck. Jets come back and win. Right? Right?

[00:03:27] Mike Piazza's home run against the Braves post-September 11th. Okay? I left the stadium. Piazza hit its home run. And then, as Carlos very well knows, the most recent, I mean, I can go on forever, was the trip in September 2022 to Cleveland to see the Jets again. To see the Jets against them. And I sat there. The Jets are losing. And I said, ah, we should get going. This game's over. We've got to head back home. Soon as I walk out of the stadium, Jets come back and win.

[00:03:56] So, those days are over. My guarantees now work. Right? Now, what I can tell you is it sounds like good things are not meant for you to be seen, apparently. You can't be in the presence of this. Or I have to leave the stadium for a team. That's what I mean. You can't see good things. And I think that's over. I think that's over. So, I'm going to feel a little comfortable now. Four-week guarantee? I don't know. That's a goal. I'm going to feel more comfortable with predictions and guarantees now. Excuse me. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[00:04:26] I think you're short-chasing yourself. Uh-oh. It was a 1980-something Mets Jets-Dolphins playoff game where you guarantee – that was 19, I think, 83. Oh, okay. Todd threw the three interceptions. Oh, it goes further back. Yes. You're guaranteed that win. And that didn't happen. Yeah. So, we can – This is like a 40-year thing that you got going. Yes.

[00:04:56] Yes. It's over. It's a special gift. Sort of like, I can make this U-turn. No problem. See? So, it's like – Right. Right. Well, Mets fans are very happy about having it back. I assume Pete, right, you're happy about that too? Yeah. I mean, look, it's fine. All we did was postpone this trip down memory lane next year. I said this – You know, Ray and I had this discussion. Actually, I might have had it with my kids. It's like –

[00:05:27] What? What – In what world, okay, does Pete Alonso think – And I like Pete Alonso. Don't get me wrong. And I'm glad they received him. And it now makes the team better, right? Last week we said, without Pete Alonso there, eh, eh, eh, eh. Now I can say this. And I don't even think Alonso is going to be significantly better this year than he was last. It wasn't like he was injured or something's going to change. He's getting older, you know. But I'm glad.

[00:05:53] But in what universe does he think he should be the highest paid first baseman? What universe is he happy with the job that Scott Boris did? So who's whispering in his ear and saying, no, no, no, no, Pete. No, no, turn down that seven-year contract because you're worth much more than $158. Scott Boris. What's I'm saying? I mean, does he have family and friends? You just say, Pete, maybe, you know, you want to think about. So he goes and does this deal. Fine.

[00:06:23] He gets this $30 million. Great. Yay. You're the highest paid first baseman for a year. Okay? Banking on himself. And I understand. Go ahead and bank on yourself and the confidence that you might have. Okay? Didn't work out the last time he banked on himself. That's the thing. Right. And somehow you think being 31, you know, maybe he thinks he's really Aaron Judge and say, oh, well, Judge has Soto in front of him and he won an MVP. I'll have Soto in front of me. Now I'm going to win MVP.

[00:06:51] I love Pete. He's not Aaron Judge. So it's like, I feel, I really, but what annoys me, see, I'll tell you what annoys me, and this used to annoy me about the Wilpons. It annoys me about things. I understand you don't want to say anything. Okay? I understand you don't want to speak badly or whatever. But don't blow smoke up my ass. Like, don't sit there and go, oh, no, Scott didn't quit, which is some of the clips. You know, no, I've never changed from Scott. Boris did.

[00:07:20] You know, why don't you just say things didn't work out? You know, whatever. You don't have to criticize. Just be honest. It's like the Wilpons. No, no, no. We'll be in the bidding for those players. You're like, dude, you're lying. Calling him up and saying, how much did you want? Oh, $1.75? Sorry, too much. Hang up. It's not in the bidding. You know what I mean? You know, if you're broke, you're broke. Right? I mean, just be honest. We all said, you know, you didn't get the... I don't know what his logic was. I really don't. I did. I think he wanted the most money. And I think that...

[00:07:48] I wouldn't be surprised if the Mets wanted that $24 million on the back end, so he didn't feel pressure to perform this year. You know? Yeah. If I may, an important part of the story is that Cohen actually went down and had a face-to-face with him to explain the market to him because he was so confused. Evidently, Boris is incapable of explaining the market. It's huge. And then it's the draft picks that connected to his signing, really. Well, why would Boris volunteer that? He wouldn't volunteer that, then.

[00:08:18] But he's supposed to... I know. He's talking on the market. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we don't know what was said exactly, but, you know, it's a shame that it went this far and that he got screwed in the end. Oh, I bet. Yeah. $30 million. I'm sure. I'm sure Cohen had a little Chaz Palminteri moment from a Bronx sale, you know? Now you just can't leave. Right. I'm sure there was a little of that going on. Oh, come on in, guys. Come on in. Come on in. Have this. We have a billionaire.

[00:08:48] Guys, we have a billionaire. Obviously, someone highly successful. Probably sit down and tell him, look, here's what it is. There is some cachet of someone who's a successful business person telling you, this is what the market is and really shooting it straight to him. And maybe that was the first time anybody did it during this whole process. That said, look, here's what it is. This is what you're going to get. And this is all you're going to get. But if you don't want this, what else? And Ray, you brought it up in earlier pods.

[00:09:16] If something else was out there better, he would have obviously taken it. There was nothing else out there. I didn't see an offer from Ray. I never saw another offer besides that. Not even leaked. Not even leaked. Nothing. Nothing. You're right. I saw it more as Godfather, too. I saw it more with Pacino sitting there telling the senator, you're going to buy this contract for me. You're going to give me the things that they gave me to see. I'm not going to pay you anything. I think that's sort of how it went. We're scouting. I mean, that's the co-est after it said, you're going to sign this contract.

[00:09:46] You're going to be thankful for this thing. I'm even going to let you get another $24 million next year when you've got $226 million and don't opt out. You know what I mean? So, you know, it's like, whatever. That's a great one, Pete. And I'd appreciate if you put up the fee for the gaming license personally. Exactly. In fact, I appreciate if you pay for dinner. For me, it was during our weekly chat. Ray posted up this meme at Stone Cold Steve Cohen. I love that. Yeah, that was great. That was great.

[00:10:16] I did that for you. That was great. I thought of you right away when I saw that. I mean, I didn't know it was from somebody else, but that was pretty funny. I didn't know the other character, though. The Stearns character. I didn't know what character. I'm trying to remember. I forgot now. I can't remember right now. But it's all right. Well, this is episode 10. This is numero 10 of our, with 90 more to go. Right? More at least. Today? That's all our contracts today. Not today. Not today. Hold on.

[00:10:46] But we're at 10. I have a question before we go down this. So, Carlos, how does it feel to be a New Yorker living? Oh. Not in Philadelphia. With the Super Bowl Sunday. That's right. In the Super Bowl. I mean, I know you love when you got there with the Phillies, you know. No. No. I will say this. Now, not all Philly fans are, you know. Yes, they are. The fans that call it. They are.

[00:11:15] Not every Philly fan is the one that throws a snowball at Santa Claus during the game at Christmas, right? Or throw up on little girls? Yeah. There they are. But there is a part of the fandom that I can't stand. It's like a cult down here. Instead of fly, eagles fly, I always like to say, die, eagles, die. It's a cult. You have to understand. When you go to the supermarket or the superstore, the checkout person is always like, oh, you're wearing the wrong green.

[00:11:45] If I'm wearing, you know, my jet thing. Why that? Or have a nice day. You know, go birds. You know. And this is a true story. Early on, we moved down. I got a call from the school nurse. They wanted me to come and pick up my daughter. And I rushed in. I go in. And the nurse actually goes, she lets out an audible gasp as I enter the room. I said, what? She says, oh, you're one of those people. What? The New York people.

[00:12:15] I was like, what's wrong with my daughter? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some towns around me are having two-hour delays for tomorrow. Because they're anticipating the celebration and the kids are going to be up late. I thought it was because they were going to burn the cars in the streets. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's just a Friday night, right? Yeah, yeah. It's just a normal Friday. They're having pajama day. So the kids don't have to worry about getting dressed. They could just go in their pajamas because they're going to be up so late celebrating the victory.

[00:12:43] It's like, I understand being a fan. It's okay. But to be constantly, you know, badgered with this stuff is just, it's unbelievable. You know, on the school bus, they were asking me, was anything okay? Because my kid didn't know the Eagles song. Well, the Eagles song is we don't like the Eagles. Why do you have to teach that in school? You know, they have Eagle Day, they have Philly Day. It's like, come on. It's like a freaking cult. We don't do that in New York because in New York we don't care. You're not even in Philly.

[00:13:13] You're in Jersey. We're not even in Philly. We're in New Jersey. It's also great to have pajama day in the middle of dead of the winter. It's a great, yeah. It's always a brilliant move. You know? And it's the only place I know where every time there's some sort of major victory, they have to grease the lampposts. They like to climb the lampposts and knock them over. So the cops grease them up. Seriously. It's like... Because they're just bringing their entertainment from in their house to outside. That's just all the way. Whatever. It just sucks down here. It really does.

[00:13:41] And, you know, if anyone else has any stories about what it's like to be, like, you know, a fan, like, out of market, like, if you're an Eagles fan in the Chiefs market, just comment below. You know? I will read everyone. I would love to share our pain. Yeah. I think Pete decided to, like, hide behind his name as he's sliding into the corner more and more as we're talking. You! You! Oh! On my screen, I'm flying over. Just so you know, folks, we have a private chat where we can let each other know, you know, to adjust this.

[00:14:09] I'm sending it to my lovely cousin, and he's not reading it, but just sitting there in the corner. It's not there. Okay? I don't have the chat. But, um... I don't have the chat. He doesn't have it up. It's there, though. It's there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, really. Thank you. All right. Here, I'll put the... No, you're fine, man. You're fine. Let me tell you. All right, listen. Well, we got to see you. We just want to hear you. Just, uh, we got... I love letting people...

[00:14:39] Oh, I have to come at a full screen. That's why. I keep it at full screen. I love people giving our watchers, our listeners, which we're approaching 1,000 at this point, 1,000 subscribers, giving them inside baseball on what it's like to be a final wall during the week with us. Not only during the week, but apparently before our pre-production meeting, Pete and I are arguing about today's topic. Still. Still. Okay, so... Wait.

[00:15:08] I want to end this one. I want to end this one. Sure. Go ahead. First of all, say, I'm very disappointed in Carlos because that rant was a lot tamer than it normally is. Yeah, really, yeah. It was huge. You were supposed to go hard at the... Yeah. We try not to do that much vulgarity, but even absent the vitriol, the anger, the passion, normally his face is turning red, but he was very calm and so I'm a little disappointed. But the other thing is... Carl Satcher right now.

[00:15:37] My eldest son is an Eagles fan, so he does walk around this house chanting, singing the Eagles' fight song. Horrible parenting. Horrible parenting. You are a failure as a father. You are a failure as a father. Failure. I don't know. It gets worse. You are a failure. It gets worse. It gets worse. Somehow... But explain, did you give the background? How many sons you have and how many of them for your sport or your team? See, I love baseball. Baseball,

[00:16:07] life begins an opening day. You can take the other sports. I don't care. Okay? I like them. I enjoy it, but I don't care. So I have three sons. They all play baseball. They all sucked. Okay? And that's fine. No problem. One or two of them think they could have been good. Whatever. Okay. So... But they all love football and they all wrestle. And... Which they hated, but they did. And so football was their thing. You know,

[00:16:37] I'm raised. I don't know how I did this because as football, I'm a Jeff fan. Okay? Because I root for losers. I raised, I don't know how this happened, an Eagles fan, a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, and a Washington Commanders fan. Okay? I don't know. I don't know how this happened. The Steelers one I can get because they have a national following. But the other two, I don't get it. Because I think when he was young, RG3 was any sort of like that.

[00:17:07] However, I will say with a great deal of pride, and Ray cannot say this, all three of my boys, okay, are all Mets fans. Wait, there's a reason for that. There's a reason for that. When the Mets... My ex-wife, my ex-wife turned my son against the Mets. Justice Truman. It's still your fault. You're still married to the woman that you had kids with. Okay. I think we should get into the topic. This is not going to go well. We keep going. She's not watching. Don't worry about it. And if she was,

[00:17:36] if she did, you know it's true. I have two daughters, and they root for the Jets, and they hate the Eagles. See, I'm doing it right. You are. I'm doing it right. In fact, my youngest daughter wore a Jet jersey on Eagles Day. Yeah, but your younger daughter, but your younger daughter, she lives for like confrontation and like being contrary. She doesn't have a fight with three boys in one. She did. Which is, which is

[00:18:06] what makes her But still, I take credit. I take credit. I'm doing apparently right. Well, you are. All right. So, before we move into our topic, Thunder, which is a single topic for this episode, we're going to land up doing that continuation of the fantasy focus, fantasy freebie as separate shorts and focus on the more important topic of today, which is which, so basically, we talked this through.

[00:18:35] We decided, you know, who are the best Mets and Yankees players of all time? But that's a lot. Oh, wait, this is not different. Carlos, there's a story behind this. Wow. This idea. Oh, Carlos, yeah, this is Carlos' idea. There's nothing now, like I said. But before Carlos does it, I'd like to ask our subscribers, I'd like to thank them. We all thank you. Like and subscribe below, guys. Like and subscribe below. That's your hint. All right, we're losing our touch. All right?

[00:19:06] And we'd like to ask you to comment. We want to get some comments from you guys that watch our show. Hey, if you hate us, if you hate us, who is this guy? Some guy who hated us? Yeah, I don't know. Calls us scammers? I don't know. I don't know what's on. Maybe we don't look like geezers. I don't know. Maybe it's a compliment. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know, comment what you'd like to see from our show. We might even actually create a poll based on what we're talking about today and ask you your thoughts on that and vote in a poll. So,

[00:19:37] if you could do that, that would be awesome. But Carlos, great. Tell us how you came up with today's topic. How it ended up. Now, Carlos is right now saying, how did I come up with today? All right. Right. It was, we were talking and comparing the teams all the time and I was thinking about, you know, why wait for, why wait for them when they play each other and started thinking about Subway Series and started thinking about the World Series where, you know, the best team won when, you know, about 25 years ago now, right? Oh, dear. Yeah, yeah,

[00:20:06] 25 years ago, yeah. Oh, dear. You're going to say it that way. But wasn't it the drive to Pittsburgh, you said, that we did something? Yeah, yeah, we, Ray and Peter and I, Vinny, they were, taking a road trip to Pittsburgh, don't ask, and to kill time, we had like a mobile Stratomatic app and then we did, I forgot what, what year, we took a team from, a Yankee team for one year and a, Oh, that's right. I had to mobile Stratomatic up. Right. Well, that sounds like a

[00:20:37] barn burner of a trip, guys. Well, no, no, but Peter was doing some amazing commentary. He was, he got a career as a baseball color man because he was doing some fantastic, Ray and I were just cracking up and I got the idea of maybe we should, you know, do it, do it, do it as part of the show and then, you know, come up with our team or year or best. Actually, that's what it was. When I was thinking Stratomatic, I wanted to take the best season from what we consider the best Yankees, you know, from a period of time like from the 70s. Nobody cares about,

[00:21:06] you know, Ruth and stuff right now and then go head to head and let's do it and then Peter can comment, you know, commenter. We all could chime in as the action goes and then it evolved to this. What are we doing, Ray? We decided it was too much to go from 1970 to the present, so we broke it up into two periods, 1970 to 1999 and then 2000 to today. But without the Stratomatic thing. But without the Stratomatic thing, you know, listen, look, here's the thing. I happen to say no less than five

[00:21:36] freaking times, don't focus on a year, don't focus on stats, don't focus Stratomatic, but yet my partner coming up with us. Yankee fans didn't do it. Yankee fans didn't do it. He doesn't read it. He doesn't read it. We listen to it. We listen to it. We listen to it. He doesn't read it. He doesn't read it. And he decides, he comes up with a list. Let me tell you something. I read it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You bet. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. I'll do it later. You don't do it. Now.

[00:22:06] Don't do it. You're doing it. I'm talking over there. Don't let him threaten you, Ray. Go ahead. Don't let him threaten you. You got your friend. You got your friend. Do it. You better bring it up later. Wait a minute. I. I perfectly admit. I read it. I saw what you wrote. I thought it was stupid. I ignored it. I didn't have it. Hey, God. See? That's the way it works. All right. By the way, Pete thinks both of our years. He does his own thing. Pete the Renegade. There you go. Okay. All right. So, so that's what we're doing today. We're going to come up and I'll bring it up in the screen now.

[00:22:34] Who are the best Mets and Yankees from 1970 through 1999? So what we've had, what we did here is we had the two Yankee fans, Carlos and Vinny, come up with a list of Mets and Pete and myself come up with a list of Yankees. And the idea is to see, you know, and then we picked our own personal list. Like for instance, Pete and I picked the Mets. Carlos and Vinny have their own Yankee list privately kept. But we don't know who they picked. They don't know who we picked. And we're going to see how well we match.

[00:23:04] Yeah. We see how well we match, match up. And we haven't come up with a loser. I was thinking that the loser, we can say we lost and that was it. But I was thinking of maybe there's a punishment for the pair that lost this battle. We can come up with it later. You know, I actually saw something pretty funny in terms of, I guess, you know, how they do goofy things in fantasy baseball. Well, the team that finishes last has to do something. So this particular guy had to bring a sex doll to dinner at a restaurant.

[00:23:35] So he's sitting there in a time with a sex doll, puts the menu in front of her, talks to her the whole time. People are looking. That's what the loser in the fantasy baseball league had to do. I don't understand. Vinny's done that already. Oh, wait. No, that was a clip of Vinny. I'm sorry. Vinny will remind you he's not finished last ever. Right. Then I know that you like to do that. I'm the one coming up with a gang. I'm not the victim of the gang. He's biting his tongue. He's biting his tongue.

[00:24:03] I never did him in last until I took on a new partner who, oh, sorry, Peter. Sorry. But really quickly, to give our list into some reference, what kind of debate or how did you guys, how long did it take you guys to come up with your list? Give us a little bit about that. Give us some insight into that. Hold on. Really quickly, for reference, it took Carlos and I three emails, no conversations, and we were 99% matched. Go ahead. The floor is yours.

[00:24:32] That was part of the pre-production. Yes. Yes. The floor is yours. Go ahead. I sent him my list in an email on Friday. The first thing, in all fairness to Ray, he was under the weather, so he wasn't. And I still am, folks. My apologies. The first thing I get within minutes are, so it's like, are you stupid? This is like, what the F? When I tell our viewers and listeners who you pick, they will agree with you.

[00:25:00] I will when we go there and what my life, because again, and I will really admit that I did, I ignored it. Because in my head, in my head, when we're picking this team, I was like, well, if, and Ray conveniently forgets the part that he mentioned about Stratomatic, which by the way, I've always loved. I play to this day. At the end. At the end. And I said, and at the end, so when I looked at the list, I was like, okay, if I'm putting together a Stratomatic team, right?

[00:25:29] I'm going to play my best Stratomatic Mets from 70 to 99 against the best Stratomatic Yankees, right? I'm going to pick 1986, Dwight Gooden. I'm going to pick 1978, Ron Guidry. I'm not just going to pick Ron Guidry or Dwight Gooden, whatever, right? I'm going to pick that year, that player, because he was great. As opposed to, oh, I'll pick, you know, so-and-so because he played longer. Hey, Crane Pool because he played longer for the Mets now. You know what I mean?

[00:25:58] So that was my logic. Ray did not like my logic, but the players that I chose. No, I don't mind your logic. You didn't mind your logic. That wasn't what we were asking. So kids, remember, some of you might be old enough, I'll listen, I saw Sesame Street. There was that little segment where one of these kids is doing his own thing. That was Pete in this scenario. Everybody else was doing the same thing. He was just doing his own thing. That's okay. I thought it was a Sesame Street episode where kids didn't know how to read and learned how to read. Oh, wow.

[00:26:29] You'll see, because when we start listening to your list and I tell you, and I bring up comments about things, you'll see what I mean. It was you're picking players because they have sentimental value more than- I said if you're starting a team- Who picks sentimental value? We're not Mets fans, so we didn't pick for sentimental value. Yeah, exactly. When you look at your pitching staff, when you get past Gidry, you did. Listen, Peter's read more books than Vinny, Carlson, and I combined in over three lifetimes.

[00:26:58] So next time when I create a- I ask for anything to happen, I'm going to publish it as a book, and then you can read it. Because that's the only thing you read. That's the only thing you read. The only thing you read. I'll follow the rules. It's not about reading. I let- Listen, at the end of the day, I let Ray pick the players that we disagreed with because he picked it right. Oh, shifting the blame already. Here we go. Shifting blame already. No, I'm saying, I was- No, I- This is why it took us five days. Listen to me. I was wrong. I was wrong.

[00:27:28] We took race players. But I will tell you as we're going through them why I picked the things like that. Before we go with our list, let's hear from- Is it okay? Yeah, let's go. Go ahead. All right. So I'm going to put up your list, guys, of the Mets players. Is that okay with you? All right. We'll do that first. I hope you want to start it. All right. Hey, listen. Take it easy. I'm producing and doing the show on the same time. All right? Jesus. All right. Go ahead.

[00:27:58] Here we go. I'm getting- You have to take the banner down. I will take the banner down. Again, the pressure you guys put on me. It's incredible. Take the banner down. Take the banner down. Take the banner down. I don't want to put you out here. There we go. Okay. There we go. There's the list of Mets players from 1970, 1999 that Carlson and Vinny Pick. So explain your list, please, gentlemen. Carlos, start us off. Carlos, start us off. Todd Hundley catching.

[00:28:26] Vinny and I both really like Gary Carter. But in the end, Hundley has better franchise numbers. He's still on the, what, the home run list? Like the top 10? Yes. It was close. It was close. It's close. So at the end, we gave it down to Todd Hundley. Like I said, we have better franchise numbers. Okay. Time out. Here we go. Wow. This is going to take forever. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. That's my job to interrupt. Wait a second. Wait a second. This is exactly-

[00:28:56] All right. Going by, Ray's thing of, you're starting a franchise. You're starting a team. You truly are going to pick Todd Hundley over Gary Carter and Mike. What do you mean starting a team? I thought we were just picking the best players over this time period. Right. He just said, you're starting a team. He just said it five minutes ago. I don't care what he just said. He didn't say it in a text. He didn't say it in a text. The text never said, if I'm starting a team tomorrow, which meta-

[00:29:26] No, who was the best player at a position for this time period? I don't care what he said five minutes ago. We came up with this list two days ago. I didn't say it five minutes ago. I said it in my text during the week. What are you talking about? It says, it's up there. It says 1970 through 1999. I'm starting a team. Finish this. I can say it right away. And by the way, when you're trying to pick the best of the best, any little slight thing to give a person an edge, you give them the nod. I mean, you know, at his level. There's nothing wrong with Gary Carter. So, Pete, you're shaking your head, but that wasn't our premise.

[00:29:55] It wasn't starting a team. It was who we thought was the best player at that position for that time period. I am just waiting patiently for the apology from all you people because you didn't follow the rules anymore than I didn't follow. I don't care what rule you follow. The fact that you leave Mike Piazza off the list is mind-blowing. Oh, wait a minute. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Remember, we're doing two rounds of this. The second round is from 2000 up until today. And we're saving him.

[00:30:25] Thank you. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Trust me, it catches in the 2000s without Piazza. It's pretty lean. Just our listeners and watchers know. We did the same thing for your team. Yeah, it is. So did we. Just our listeners and watchers know, we decided as a rule that we can't pick the same player in both periods. So clearly they're reserving Mr. Piazza for a 2000 to present thing. I just want you guys to know that right now, Gary Carter is turning over in his grave.

[00:30:55] Hall of Fame Gary Carter is sitting there going. That's all right, Pete. They got six wrong already. So it's like good. Sticks. Okay. Well, I guess I guess I don't know. Are we going to say who we picked for our team at this point? No, I know from my list. I know I listened. I can tell you. Do you want to say who we picked? I'm sorry. Why do we have six wrong? Because you say they're wrong? Yeah, because we're the Mets fans. Because we know our team. You don't know. Obviously, Hernandez sucks at first base. He shouldn't be there. All right. So here's what I'll tell you. We already debated Todd Honley. That's absurd.

[00:31:24] Keith, I mean, you're saying. No, but you're saying Piazza, you moved. So now that you said that, I think Pete and I could accept Todd Honley, right? Because Pete, I think you had Todd Honley, right? Okay. No, I didn't. I had Gary Carter. Well, yeah. For the record, I had Gary Carter. Yeah. So Gary Carter, that's true. I discussed it and we went with Honley. Yeah. I don't know about that. But Keith Hernandez. Well, we have him as an honorable mention. We'll get to it in a minute. But he's wrong because you should have listened. That's an incorrect answer. Keith Hernandez.

[00:31:54] It's a correct answer. That's a correct answer. That's correct. Edgardo Alfonso was on the list. Third base Howard Johnson, that's on the list. Ventura was a close second. That's one of the people we fought about, right, Pete? I think it's close. Yeah. It was close. But we went with Howard. Yeah. We went with the one who was also on a World Series winning team. But gentlemen. John. Bud Harrelson. Yeah. You know what? I'm sorry. Who would it be? Bud Harrelson. Who would you pick?

[00:32:24] Who would you pick? I mean, I don't know. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. My initial pick, and then I thought Vinny had a good argument, was Ray Adornis. Because he had three straight gold gloves, right? But this is 1970, 1999, okay? He had a very short career, all right? Bud Harrelson had a long career, okay? And he had a really great glove. And so... Because you play a long time and you suck, does it mean that it's, you know...

[00:32:50] All of your shortstops in that time period were not great, man. Odonis was light hitting too. Yeah. So we just went... We gave the longevity to Harrelson. I mean, I also want to go rough. He just didn't win three in a row. I will tell you, I will tell you that Ray Adornis... And I say this without... Forget being a Mets fan. Next to Ozzie Smith, I have never seen a shortstop better than Ray Adornis. Okay? That's... I mean, he was above and beyond, you know, anything. Yeah.

[00:33:17] I could say, really, Ozzie Smith, probably because he played longer and, you know, he had a thing. And if you pick for Adornis... And Ozzie could hit. Well, Ozzie at the end could hit. But the truth is, Ray Adornis was... I could absolutely... He could play his entire... At 212. And I would have been just fine with that. He was that great. I never saw anyone. That's why you guys lose. I mean, that's my point. I mean... And just so you know, Carlos did pick Adornis. We went with...

[00:33:45] I picked Harrelson because we went with the longevity. That's what we went with. The one who had the longer career for the... Look, in fairness, we debated it. But it wasn't Adornis and Harrelson. Who did you guys have? Are you kidding me? Pete just choked because this is one of the... This is... Who the hell did you have? This is one of... I want to hear who you had. Who is it? Exactly. Look, Pete, why don't you tell him who... Who did you have, Pete? And it's not a guy... It's not a guy... Again...

[00:34:15] It's not a guy from the... It's not the guy, Ray. He just prays for like a minute. It's someone else. No. No. Okay. So, again, in my head, I'm thinking... I'm picking the thing. And I also... I also knew it was going to spark a thing. I asked me... I'm already pissed off. I'm already pissed off. Go ahead. 1979, Frank Tavares. Oh, excuse me. Who numerically... Numerically... Had... I mean...

[00:34:43] Granted, we have a pretty light shortstop area to choose from. Yeah. That was... It was... It was tough. People like that... And just... Yes, everybody... No. I said... All right. I'll pick 1979, Frank Tavares. Because... But it was... It was really a toss-up. Because I do truly love watching Ray Ordonez. And I wanted to. And that one I said... You know what? I'm going to throw Tavares at a break and yell at me. And call me a moron. Right. No.

[00:35:08] And just so you know, this is not the Tavares from the Tavares RB soul group in the 70s and 80s. It's Frank Tavares, the shortstop. And you had a better chance naming someone from the Tavares group, from the R&B group, than this guy. All right? Who did you pick? Who did you pick? This guy didn't even land on our radar. Holy cow. All right. So then... It was Adonias. We picked Adonias. You said Adonias. Ray, he's not kidding. The light... I mean, I added... I was looking at Harrelson's home run totals or Adonias' home run totals.

[00:35:38] I think if you take their career home runs combined, Lindor might have had more last year than those two hitting their careers combined. I'm a great guy. I'm a great guy. I'm a great guy. I'm a great guy. I'm a great guy. I'm a great guy. Yeah, they were so light hitting. Oh, my goodness. But, Pete, are you freaking kidding me? Are you kidding me with that pick, though? As a Met fan? Like, is this like an all-star team from 70, 79, and that's how the hell you pick? And are you trying to shame us? Are you trying to shame us? Wait a minute.

[00:36:07] Did Carlos... I get him, Carlos. Get him, Carlos. Carlos is still pissed off. Carlos is still pissed off. I get him. He's more pissed off than his Eagles ran. He's after your ass. He's on your ass now. Okay. He batted... He batted 263. Stole 42 bases. Okay? And right there, right there, would make him, in that time period, that's the highest bat average, the most stolen bases. Okay? I mean, you know...

[00:36:37] He's disqualified. Yeah. He's disqualified. Dumbass. All right. Did we mess up any outfield? McReynolds, Boogie Wilson, Schroeder. No, you nailed the outfielders. You nailed the outfielders. I know we had Cleon Jones possibly in the effort. He played more pre-70s. Cleon Jones came up. Yeah, that was... Cleon Jones was more pre-70s. Oh, no. Wait a second. No, wait a second. Wait a second. I'm sorry. There was one more player.

[00:37:06] Pete, why didn't you tell them the player that you had nominated for outfield? That was your number one choice for left field, actually. Oh, nice. Oh, no. I mean, it was the guy that I picked. Again, before you all yell at me, okay? Remember when I was... The Alamo. Remember what's going around in your head. Okay, go ahead. Right. Same thing, by the way, it's you, so don't even try to publish. It's different thinking. I picked Bernard Gilkey.

[00:37:36] He can't turn his mic off. Turn his mic off. Unreal. What are you talking about? I actually forgot that Bernard Gilkey was in bed for a little while until I saw... Wasn't there Cardinals? Yes, he was in Cardinals. Bernard Gilkey. He was here for a cup of coffee. But he put him there. 1996. 317 batting average. 30 home runs. 117 RBI. 17 stolen bases. Got MVP votes.

[00:38:06] Okay? I can see why Ray reacted to your list the way he did. Don't blame him. Your list warrants that reaction. Before this happened, Ray, I was really on fear that I didn't think it's being a pain in the ass. But I see you're already being a pain in the ass. But no, I see. Usually it is. Oh, yeah. Usually it is. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Who? Wait. Any of you guys. Not Ray. I already know his answer.

[00:38:36] So... You already yelled at me. If you were going to... If you were going to use the logic that I was using, which because what Ray said at the end, what he said at the end was, maybe we'll do a stratomatic sort of round table with the players that we pick. Right? Well, if you're going to do a stratomatic round robin... I'm sorry. A series. Right? With the players. You got to pick the player and the year. Right? So, again, in my head, okay, that's what I was doing.

[00:39:06] Now, forget whether I was being an idiot or not. Fine. Well, except I'm an idiot. You tell me the guy who had a better left fielder. Tell me what Kevin McReynolds best year versus that. If I told you pick one left fielder for one stratomatic game, one year, any year, of a guy who played left field during that period of time, tell me... We couldn't tell you that because we weren't looking for that. Yeah. We're not going to do that because that wasn't what we were asked to do. That wasn't what we were asked to do. So, we move on.

[00:39:36] We weren't asked to do what you did either. So, we move on. We move on. We move on. Pitching. All right. Look at our pitching staff. We move on. We move on. Hold on. Hold on. We move on. That's one idea. That's one idea. DH. We forgot the DH. Exactly. We forgot the DH. Oh, I didn't want to talk about this. Dave Kingman, but because we treated Piazza as this period of time, that was our DH. Gary Carter was a catcher. Yeah. And you did not. And okay. Well, this was in the day. This was in the day.

[00:40:04] And frankly, if you're going to push Piazza to the next chunk of time, we have no problem with Hundley, catcher. I'm not sure about Kingman. Pete, how do you feel about Kingman as DH? I think if you guys are going to get on my ass about Bernard Gilkey or take it, Kingman. Really? Carlos gave you his logic. No, I agree with Kingman. I actually like Kingman. My pick was Dykstra. I actually picked Dykstra as a DH. Dykstra was your pick, too. That was my pick. Oh, Dykstra.

[00:40:34] I like Carlos's logic. Go ahead, Carlos. I thought it was pretty on point. A pioneer for the modern day mindset that batters have right now. He didn't care about strikeouts, right? I think he had a launch angle. You didn't call it that. Hold on. I think Pete just had a stroke. Okay, great. Okay, listen. Listen. No, but think about it, right? He didn't care about strikeouts, right? And we call it launch angle now. I'm sure you call this something different. That's all he was concerned about at a time where it was frowned upon. And the guy had legit power.

[00:41:04] So I took the one. We leaned a little bit more with his power, you know, plus his time. With the Mets. Over Dykstra. Dykstra's a good pick. Because I didn't know he had left and come back to the Mets. I actually had a... I didn't know that he had... But you think about it, he's kind of high in here for the modern day mindset that batters have now. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me just say a couple of things. And then, Ray, you can chime in if you want. So let me see if I understand this.

[00:41:25] You think that Dave Kingman sat down and said, I think launch angle is a big... How about the fact that he just swung and every once in a while he was 6'6 and the ball would hit his back and go really, really far. And he was nothing more than a shitty player. Okay? As opposed to, hmm, launch angle. Maybe if I swing like this. The ball would accidentally hit his back. Granted, 400 and something times. Okay? That's number one. Number two.

[00:41:55] You chose consciously to move Mike Fiazza from this era to that era. I completely understand. Okay? And instead of making Gary Carter the catcher, maybe Hundley the DH or vice versa, you pick this piece of shit, Dave Kingman. Okay? And you make him the DH. When you have Gary Carter as honorable, a Hall of Famer, who, by the way,

[00:42:22] played 85, 86, 87, 88. So he didn't like play one year. Okay? He played a couple years. And he's honorable mention. So we can have Dave effing Kingman as the designated hitter. So let me say... Well, first of all, it's our list. Yeah. It's our list. Have respect. Have some respect. Let me say something. Because I was a Dave Kingman guy. First of all, honorable mention to me, he's sort of not a slight. He's part of the team.

[00:42:51] And we already have a catcher. Okay? Kingman, not known for his, you know. All right. You know what? You know what? But, no, he didn't sit there and talk about launch angles. There's no such thing as launch angle. But he knew. He knew what his value as a hitter was. Right? That was his bread and butter. That's what he did. He almost hit 500 of them, Pete. That's, you know, there's some guys today who actually have that mindset. They don't get what they hit average-wise. Yeah. If they hit home runs. A wealth of power. So, Pete, chicks dig the long ball. So, Pete finally broke down.

[00:43:21] Here we are in episode 10. He finally said his first curse word. He thinks we didn't catch that, but I caught that right away. You could have said eight. All right. Number two. Two 20 more. Number two. Number two. If anybody remembers, there was a league that was attempted sometime in the early 90s, late 80s,

[00:43:44] called the Senior Baseball League in down in Florida, where they had retired Major League Baseball players playing in a league together. And there was a certain age limit. But, you know, I went down there. I actually, you know, you can get seats, great seats. And so I had seats right next to the dugout. Maybe I was with you, Pete. And, okay. Well, I was watching. I was watching. One of the teams was like the Tampa this. And then another was the St. Lucy that. So, this team I was watching had Earl Weaver.

[00:44:12] So, I got to meet Earl Weaver and talk to Earl Weaver in the dugout, which is like one of the highlights of my baseball life. But more importantly, Pete, I know Dave Kingman. Dave Kingman, after that conversation, is a friend of mine. And, Pete, Dave Kingman belongs on the list. Dave Kingman is a well-read man. He's a smart. He's not a moron.

[00:44:37] And I can easily see Carlos' point of being a cameman, thought, read about launch angles or whether they're called launch angles or not. But he was smart enough to, I think, realize what his worth was. And I commend you, Carlos. Okay. So, your argument here is that Dave Kingman. He was a pioneer. A good guy. A pioneer. One of the most intelligent baseball players I've ever had the pleasure of. Was that the same intelligence that threw the dead man at the female reporter? Had intelligence? No. Wait.

[00:45:07] You can be intelligent. As we see from the state of politics, you can be intelligent and be a moron at the same time. So. No, no, no. The people of politics are just morons. Okay. All right. So, we got to move on. We got to move on. All right. So, we got Siever, Goodman, Goodman. I can't believe. I can't believe. I just made this right Jewish. No. Siever, Goodman, Kuzman, Matlach, Fernandez. Gentlemen, you nailed every single one except one.

[00:45:37] John Matlach. We did not chose. Although, John Matlach is my favorite man of all time. That was not a choice in a rotation. We actually. Oh, and for Zip Fernandez, we actually had instead. Who do we have instead? We didn't have Matlach. We had who? Cone. Cone. Yes. You have those honorable mention, but Cone is in a rotation. It was close. Yeah. It was close. Okay. Well, you did a good job. I think you did. I mean. I think I'll close at some point. And your manager? You don't have the manager? Davey Johnson. Davey Johnson. Okay.

[00:46:06] So here's what I would say. You have. If we counted the honorable mention, you only got four wrong. But if we don't count it, you got six wrong. Okay. Because. Yeah. But I'll give you a break. We'll do four wrong. Okay. Now we come up with our list. Let's see. It should be good. Oh, boy. Dave Kingman. I cannot believe that Dave Kingman is on an all-time anything list. This is the list.

[00:46:35] Well, Pete Rance, this is our list of the best Yankees. She is all-fair. Dave Kingman. Let's see it. Now he's doubling down in the curse words. Here we go. Where's the list? Here's our list. All right. So at catcher. Pete, do you want to do this? Pete, do you want me to do this? Oh, I can't. I can't wait until we get to somebody. Okay. So we got Dermot Munson clearly. Don Mattingly, I think, clearly.

[00:47:04] Willie Randolph, I think, was clear for me. But I think, Ray, you had some thoughts on that one. Steve Sachs. Steve Sachs is a close-up. Steve Sachs. He wanted to go with Steve Sachs. He who could not throw to first base. He wasn't even a thought for Carlos and I. That's the problem. He didn't throw to first base. So I gave you a little bit of a touch with Chuck Toblock, but ran into the same problem. But Willie Randolph clearly second baseman. Greg Nettles. I think you wanted to fight that one too, right? Didn't you? No, no. That was hands down. I love Greg Nettles. Derek Jeter.

[00:47:33] Derek Jeter was like, you know, Piazza. Which era? And I put him here because I figured, eh, there's got to be somebody that was decent between 1990 and 99. I'm not sure. So we threw him in here. Okay, Ray. Roy White. Roy White. Oh, by the way, do you guys agree with what we had so far? We did not have Jeter because of the error thing.

[00:48:00] We put in – we had Bucky Dent as our shortstop. But we didn't have – Jeter, obviously. Right. I can see that. It does get lean. After Jeter leaves, it gets pretty lean. Yeah. You guys – I think you guys are Vopey maybe as your shortstop. Or Didi. Or Didi. But, yeah. Well, no. No. What's his face that played for the team that lost to the Reds played shortstop? He was pretty good. I forgot his name. Or Campanaris?

[00:48:29] No, no, no, no. He was a Yankee shortstop when they got swept by the Reds in the World Series. Sorry? He was second baseman. Fred Stanley? Fred Stanley. I think that was it. I think. No, no. It was Fred Stanley. I'm pretty sure. Anyway. So – So you guys run into trouble here, left field and center field. Yeah. No, no. This is – I think – here's what I think. You know, Fred – Roy White, any Yankee fan that was a Yankee fan,

[00:48:59] especially in that early part of the 70s to 99 period, would have said that Roy White was hands down not just the best left fielder the Yankees had, but one of the best left fielders in baseball, period. End of start. He is on our list. He was – We have him. You don't have to sell him. We have him. Wait, wait, wait. Honestly, we had him on the list. But do you know who – do you know who – there was a debate. It was with Ricky Henderson. Oh, but Ricky Henderson, we got him in center field. Why do you have him in center field? That's where you meant – yeah. Well, wait a second. Go ahead. Hold on.

[00:49:28] Hold on. Who do we miss? Because Ricky Henderson is a top three all-time – maybe top – No, but – Yeah, we thought of Brady Williams, but maybe Brady Williams in left field, but he didn't play left field 150 games. It was center field. Ricky Henderson played center field 150 games for the Yankees? Yes, he did. He did. I remember him in left.

[00:49:55] I don't know why about left field. Let me ask you, Yankee fans, how many games do you think Ricky Henderson played in center field? I don't care if he played 150. He still was not a better Yankee in that era than Bernie Williams was.

[00:50:25] We're not looking at what Ricky did in his whole career. Hold on. We're not taking Ricky's career. Time out. Time out. I think he was a Yankee for like two and a half, three years. You're actually going to have a straight face and say that Ricky Henderson – It's 100% straight face. We're the top five Hall of Famers of all time. It's not career. It's a Yankee. Bernie Williams is better than Ricky Williams? Bernie Williams was a better Yankee than Ricky Henderson was as a Yankee. And that's a Yankee fan telling you that. It's a fact. Yankee career. Yankee career.

[00:50:54] We didn't go majorly career. You're embarrassing yourself. It's Yankee career. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You're embarrassing. What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? Put Ricky Henderson in left field and knock Roy White out? Is that what you're telling me I got to do? We don't even have him on our list. By the way. Ricky Henderson. Correct. Ricky Henderson played five years for the Yankees, so it wasn't a joke. It's a lot, but five years. Five years is a lot. Oh, we had Ricky as honorable mention. Yeah. Yeah. So you agree with Roy White then? We have playing left field. We agree with Roy White. Okay. All right. Really?

[00:51:24] Well, he spent his entire career as a Yankee. His entire career was a Yankee. Why? He was a good player. He was a solid player. He was a good player. Wait, wait, wait, wait. See? Here we go again. You know what Peter had? You know what Peter had? Let's do Peter. Let's do it. It's not a Stratomatic. We didn't do Stratomatic. Okay. Forget Stratomatic. Again. Hold on. Let me tell you who you had in left field. Bernard Gilkey. Oh, shut up. Jesus Christ. So, no. No. Okay. Hold on a second here. Fine.

[00:51:52] If you go by my, if you go by my, forget mine, right? For one year. I get it. Right? If you guys want to ignore the whole career thing. Fine. Okay. Roy White. There is no stat that Roy White had. Okay. That approaches what Ricky Henderson did in five years with the Yankees. So, you're just going to ignore five. One year. I get it. Five years as a Yankee. Okay. And you're just saying. So, I tell you.

[00:52:21] Pick five years. Ricky Henderson. Any year from five years of Ricky Henderson. Any year from 15 years of Roy White. You're picking one year of the Hendersons. No, no, no, no, no. There's a Hall of Famer that happened to play for the Yankees. But he was right for his entire career. So, you're just picking your favorite pitch. Because they're unomentious. What are you arguing what Yankee fans are for? I never saw him play. I don't even remember him playing. Listen. Here's the good news. Here's the good news.

[00:52:51] The rest of your list matches ours. Congratulations. I'm sure they feel much better about that. Sorry. I assume match is yours. We flipped. That's what I meant. We had Winfield and Reggie flipped. We had Reggie in right field. Winfield's a DH. Winfield's a better right fielder, though. Yeah. I'm a Winfield fan. But we went. Guidry, Catfish. I don't think we had Tommy John. I think we had Ed Figueroa.

[00:53:21] Yeah. Ed Figueroa. We were debating Ed Figueroa. We had Ed Figueroa. Quarterly comprise. But you noticed that Dave Winfield and Reggie, they both could play right field. You noticed that. Not like Ricky Henderson playing center just for those spits. Well, Winfield actually played also a lot. By the way, the answer is Ricky Henderson played 146 games in center field. You would have never guessed that. That's not 150. Well, if you round it out. There's no rounding. It's going to be enough to see at least 150. Don't get me wrong. Round it out to the nearest 10 of 150. Listen. Don't get me wrong.

[00:53:50] Those were great years. With Maddie and Henderson. Ricky would get on. Still second. And Maddie Lee would knock them in. It was as automatic as you can get for baseball. That was great. Don't get me wrong. But Roy Wright. Come on. All right. So here we go. And you closed the honorable mention. We're going to finish up. We hit it. Goose and Rigetti. That's what we had. We're going to finish up. We're going to finish up our podcast. Because we don't want to. Manager. Who would you have as a manager? Oh, manager? Billy Martin. Hands down. Yeah. Right. Okay.

[00:54:20] Joe Torrey. Jerry Torrey was nothing but a macro manager. He had a team too great. He also. No lodges for the other thing, by the way. But, you know, I had to let him have what he wanted. Oh, yeah. God forbid. All right. Anyway. So. So anyway. With that. We're going to end our podcast. Again, you like to. I'm just disgusted. I think. I fight over Ricky Henderson. I will say this. I had Bernie in center.

[00:54:51] And Ricky in left. And so there was a little bit of tweaking. With moving Ricky to center. And putting Roy. We figured just for the hell of it. We'll do it just to tweak you guys. And put him as I. So, in all fairness. Roy fight over Ricky Henderson. I mean. Dude. I cannot even. I want to follow. You know what? Almost as much as Dave Kingman. You know what, Pete? Dave Kingman. Gary Coker. Can't get on the team. The Hall of Famer. He's on the team. You're not. Pete.

[00:55:20] You're just going to monitor your fellow. He's dead. No, we didn't. Actually, Pete. I had him as the catcher. And we debated him. Pete. Our late cousin. Our late cousin. Yeah. With St. Roy White. You are disrespecting him. He's spitting in his grave right now. Okay. Go ahead. Go around the circles. All right. Anyway. All right. We will end it. We will end this podcast by saying thank you very much for subscribing. We are getting to that point. Will you shut up already? Shut up.

[00:55:50] I want people to comment. I want to show it. Dave Kingman. Dave Kingman. Dave Kingman. Dave Kingman. Shut up. Comics. Listen. We're ending the podcast right now. All right. We're winding this down. Thank you very much for liking, subscribing, listening to this Kripala sometimes. Thank you very much. We're approaching 1,000 subscribers. We're going to ask you to comment. We want your comments on our podcast because that's going to help us make our show better,

[00:56:18] if that's possible, if that's possible. But what we're going to do, guys, we're going to put up a poll saying which list was more accurate. What do you think? Which list is more accurate? Pete, my list or call us and Vinny's list. And we will revisit this on our next podcast next week. And I'm going to add a second poll saying what was Pete thinking when he said Bernard Gilkey? Really? And then you can answer it. I didn't think me. All right.

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